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#24333914 - 05/19/17 07:14 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys,

So I have these two bags of brown rice flour and vermiculite that I inoculated with Cambodian cubensis.

Both bags have started growing mycelium but the substrates are not yet completely covered.

So this is my question:

I don't want to grow them en vitro, but I have no more substrate and have no access to materials to make more. However, I live in Jamaica. (The country, not New York)

As such, would I be able to take the two substrates once fully covered and put them in a sterile Tupperware container and leave it open so the mush will grow bigger and possibly better?

Any help on what to do once the mycelium is grown would be much appreciated.

Again, I live in Jamaica and I bought the Cambodian strain as it grows well in heat and humidity so that's why I was thinking the Tupperware would be a good idea.


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#24333953 - 05/19/17 07:28 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Shave some coconuts and make your own coir. I'm sure they grow there, right? Prob need a sh*tload of them tho

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#24333991 - 05/19/17 07:45 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

i think you are a little confused about the process, or maybe you were informed by the site/people who sold them to you

basically, you are doing everything wrong. brf + verm is ok for PF tek, but will be pretty sh*tty for what you are talking about.

you seem to think the substrate colonizes in the bag then is put in trays, this is incorrect. typically, we colonize sterilized GRAIN SPAWN (whole oats, rye berries, wheat berries, wild bird seed, etc) in bags or jars, then when it is 100% colonized we break it up and mix it with pasteurized bulk substrate (or bucket tek coir) and make monotubs. after these colonize, we fruit them (and some people like to have them in fruiting conditions -- meaning holes not taped -- from the very beginning)

all you need is some kind of grain from any grocery or co-op store, and some coconut coir from any pet store or garden store, and you have all you need to grow as many mushrooms as you want

also you should look into agar, and go from spores > agar > grainspawn > spawn to bulk (coir monotub) . this will guaruntee success and will have you no longer dependant on buying spores or syringes or any less reliable methods

stick to the proven techniques and follow them closely (bodhi's sig is the place to start). that way, if something goes wrong, we can help you debug it

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#24334008 - 05/19/17 07:52 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

My bad. I missed the BRF and verm part of this post. Listen to c10. Great reply

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#24334041 - 05/19/17 08:04 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I totally already understood the bird seed way.

But what I'm asking is should I just let the mushrooms grow in the bag or will more be produced by putting the substrate in a container?


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#24334066 - 05/19/17 08:13 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

??? if you understood "the birdseed way" then why did you proceed like someone who didnt understand what grainspawn was or what the purpose of spawn is? id suggest looking back over the basics, because if you understood that (like you said) you wouldnt have used brf instead of grain spawn Transferring substrate to a different container. - Mushroom Cultivation (73)

if you want mushrooms, i would start over and use a proven tek

i wouldnt bet on what you have going there producing anything. it might, but it will be in spite of all the things you did wrong

if you dont really care if you get mushrooms or not, do whatever with it. fruit it in the bag, take it out and fruit it as a big cake in a SGFC, bury it in the yard, or whatever. putting it into another container like you are saying doesnt really make any sense though, it might not recover well and it is kinda pointless. total waste of time if you ask me, i would start over with a real method and not waste time with something that probably wont work and wont give you much even if it does

better off learning how to do things right than learning bad habits, teaching yourself the wrong way. you will just have to unlearn all that later. much better to do things right from the start, that way we can actually help you when things go wrong

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